It would just be so cool...
All you have to do is watch the games and it's obvious that Lebron is the best player in the game.
Most glaringly, Rose is not in the top 5 of any major statistic- Points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks...nope, nope, nope, nope, and hell no. He dished out less assists than 9 more generous point guards, he's been outscored by 6 more prolific players, and been outstolen by 70 better defenders. That seems like statistics that would automatically disqualify any candidate from the MVP conversation. I did a little research, and it turns out that no one has ever won the MVP without being in the top 5 in points, rebounds, or assists. So there goes that.
"But, did you see this highlight!"
"WHERE'S MY POSTER MACHINE!"
Impressive, yes. It doesn't make you an MVP candidate. Stacey King, the Bull's color commentator, is doing his best job replacing Ron Santo as Chicago's (and the country's) most homerific announcer. If you crave more of Stacey King's voice, click here and you can make him say whatever you want (as long as you want him yelling about the Bulls).
For all the fun provided by highlights of Derrick Rose accompanied by Stacey King's jubilant factory of overused basketball cliches, I can't call what I see an MVP. I know who the best basketball player is. You know who the best basketball player is. We just don't want to admit it.
Wait, so you are going to give absolutely no evidence of better players?
ReplyDeleteYou mention Lebron twice and say "All you have to do is watch the games and it's obvious that Lebron is the best player in the game" and yet you its clear that you don't watch the games. Let's say Lebron is the best player in the NBA, though theres an argument to be made by Durant fans, that still doesn't make him the MVP, you fucking retard. The MVP is the Most Valuable Player, you fucking retard. The way that Derrick Rose has used his abilities as a basketball player to elevate his team shows why he is the consensus MVP pick so far, you fucking retard. Also, I apologize for ending all my sentences in "you fucking retard", but I'm gonna continue, you fucking retard. You fail to mention that he is the only player in the league in the top 10 in both assists and points, and you can't assist on your own basket, which might explain why he's not top 5 in either, you fucking retard. He both distributes AND scores, what a novel concept, you fucking retard. Plus he has the 2nd best assist/turnover ratio of any players among the top 10 in assists, you fucking retard. So don't try to use the stats to make your argument, and if you do, tell the whole story.
Furthermore, the MVP is not a statistical award. It is not the player with the best PER. If you know what that is. This isn't baseball. Derrick has done what he's done without the help of one of his 2 All-Star caliber big men the entire season, with the exception of 6 games where Carlos Boozer was clearly still catching up with the rest of the league. I don't mind you making a case for Lebron James being the league's MVP. If you want to do that, then do that, but make a case that he is the Most Valuable Player, don't make a case that Derrick Rose doesn't have the league's best statistics. You clearly miss the point of what the award entails.
2 last notes, Stacey King is irrelevant in this discussion and that dunk on Goran Dragic was last year, so again, irrelevant of this discussion.
But really, other than this aberration of idiocy, you've been doing a good job and the blog looks good! Keep up the good work, I'll write off this boneheaded move as having to do with your illness.
Alright Henry, is seems your making the "value" argument. That is, you're saying there is a way to discern a players value to his team without looking purely at the numbers, and the most VALUABLE player award goes to the player who shows he has the greatest value to his team. To that, I have this to say:
ReplyDeleteI think trying to determine a player's value other than by numerical evidence is damn near impossible. And, even if you try, every statement tends to concentrate on some other fantasy world we know nothing about (What if Rose wasn't on the Bulls? What if Rose and Lebron traded places?). The answer to those questions is that I don't know. You can't measure someone's value by subjective fantasy thinking- you can measure it by numbers. Yes, I completely agree with the point that this is baseball we are talking about where numbers are everything. Basketball is a team sport- an actual team sport. In baseball, you don't have to rely on your teammates for anything. You get the job done your self. In basketball, numbers are skewed by the performance of teammate.
Rose makes a good pass, teammate missess the layup- no assist.
However, just because the numbers are less accurate does not invalidate them or mean that we have anything better to judge players on. You can say that you get this 'feeling' about Rose but I think all of those factors I mentioned go into that instead of his play.
Furthermore, I'll mention Lebron's stats to make my case for him, which I didn't really do in the article.
Miami has scored 369 more points than its opponents when LBJ is in the game.
Chicago has scored 250 more with D-Rose in.
James: 26 PPG
Rose: 24.6 PPG
James: 47.7% FG%
Rose: 44.5%
James: 7.2 Rebounds per game
Rose: 4.6
James: 1.5 steals
Rose: 1.04
James is a much better defender.
James 26.24 PER(for the those who dont know, player efficiency rating is a giant metric that accounts for everything)
Rose 23.02
The bottom line is that Rose is too small and shoots a glaringly bad field goal percentage. I like him and think he and his team are doing an unbelievable job winning (which is what actually matters), but he's not an MVP candidate at all. That's an individual award.
RIght on time, Lebron puts up 51 points.
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